| Batttttty
shares a bowl of alphabet soup with
Gunter
Nezhoda |
Gunter
Nezhoda is a name to conjure with - 'A Zen Dog Hunter', 'Great
Zen Hound' and 'Head Grunt Zone' are all anagrams of his name....
but apart from that, he's the bassplayer on the Endless Jam album
which features Michael Schenker and Leslie West on guitar duties.
I met up with Gunter for a game of Scrabble, and after I'd frisked
him for hidden vowels, we got talking about his early life in
Austria, his views on the the greatest invention ever ever ever,
and his deep love for the Bee Gees.
OK, here ya go... |
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I would imagine that when you were growing up in Vienna, you were
exposed to more classical music and opera than rock music, yes?
My
dad was an opera singer and so was my step-mom and both sisters
Tatjana
Schullern and Patricia
Nessy are also opera singers. As a kid I always had to attend
rehearsals with my dad as they didn't have childcare like they
do now. From the day I was born, I have been surrounded by music
and it is in my blood. You
actually performed in an opera when you were six years old.....
blimey that sounds a bit heavy - what can you remember of that
experience? My
big performance was to walk from one side of the stage to the
other holding up a candle in Tosca because nobody else wanted
to do it. Took me lots of rehearsals to get it right ....... hahaha
- I have taken a lot of bass gigs in my life under similar circumstances
too. But seriously,
I love opera and classical music and I'm glad to have had it as
part of my childhood. It inspired my bass playing later on. The
same is true with Michael Schenker as you can hear so much Mozart
in his licks. We share that classical European foundation in our
music.
You
learnt to play the piano and then changed to playing bass guitar.
Why bass? Do you still play the piano, or any other instruments?
It
is not unusual for young people to start with piano but many give
up as it is not for them. In my case it started a spark that will
not die. Later on I was in a band playing keys and they decided
they needed a bass player. Prior to that I had to play all the
bass parts with my left hand. We met somebody who played organ
and he was much better than I was, so they literally handed me
a bass guitar and asked me to learn how to play it. |
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fell immediately in love with that instrument and preferred to be
up front on stage, interacting with the audience. I like that, I
love people. I can musically express myself best when I play bass.
Creative bass players who have feel and soul are what I grew up
listening to but today they are very rare. Groove, melody and simplicity
is the secret and I try to accomplish that. It takes five years
for a bass player to learn what to play but it takes a lifetime
to learn what not to play. Hmmm... you mean
bass solos, yeh? Okayyyy, I take that all back! Bass solos are a
GOOD thing! |
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You
worked with Leslie West on the BLUES
TO DIE FOR album. How did that come about? Mike
Varney, President of Shrapnel Records recommended me to Leslie.
He is another one of my favorite guitar players. I'm very proud
to be on that album, considering the bass players he used before
- Jack Bruce, Felix Pappalardi, etc. I feel very lucky to be involved
with that project.
Soon
after that, you were working with Michael Schenker on the ENDLESS
JAM album. For a person who has a classical background in
music such as yourself, was that a dream come true, to be working
on an album with such gifted and competent musicians as Leslie
and Michael? Did you have much/any contact with either of them,
or did you record separately? |
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record I make is a dream come true, but those two are truly very
special to me. The West album was recorded in Vegas and Leslie
did his tracks in NY. Similar situation with the Schenker album.
Michael did his tracks in San Francisco but I met him a couple
of times. I got a real good vibe from him. We have that 'German'
connection. One of these days, I hope to get the opportunity to
have a deep conversation with him. Besides sharing the same nationality,
we are only one year apart in age. |
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Tell
us about working with Pat Travers - a phenomenal player, who I'll
hopefully be seeing at his London gig in June, which will have
another friend of mine - DEL
BROMHAM of STRAY - as special guest. Will you be touring with
Pat? It
was a great learning experience to work with Pat. We were all
in the same studio and did the album and pre production together.
He is a total pro and unbelievably gifted. Although he has a legion
of international fans I think, relative to his immense talent
level, he is still under-rated. Since I'm working in the studio
a lot, I haven't had time to tour. In Pat's case, he typically
uses different musicians than he records with, so I will not be
part of the European tour. Tell Pat I said Hello if you see him
over there. Will do, for sure. You
also worked with George Lynch... George
was great to work with, he is very calm and creative and has the
same fable for gear as I do. When he is in the studio, nothing
matters to him, it's all about the music and that's a good thing.
He is a genius. The album is called 'Furious George'and is in
San Francisco at Prairie Sun for mixdown as we speak. It will
be released in May. An outstanding pleasure to work with was Kelly
Keeling who is the vocalist on this record. Wish I would have
had more time to chat with him. |
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Bio
page on your site includes a resume of your work, but can you
tell us a bit more about 'the story so far', i.e. the early bands
you were in, and how you progressed musically. Well,
I was in lots of bands, I did rock and I also played in Austria
and Germany in beer-tents and ski resorts for a living. Over here
I did the Las Vegas strip and just about every dive in this city.
I will not turn down a gig. I feel very lucky that I can live
my life with music and be able to make a living. So as long as
I get hired I will play, and if I get a call and I have nothing
else scheduled that day, I will accept a low-paying gig. However,
recently the gigs are getting better.
Since you met Me, huh? Yeh, that's often
the case. Of course, but apart from that, I'm constantly
progressing, and having the opportunity to work with all those
great artists was very beneficial for me. A person can learn a
lot from those guys and I certainly did. |
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you also involved with record production and sound-engineering
etc?
I have a small studio at my house but I don't engineer. I'm terrible
in that, I have no patience. Some day I might produce when I can't
make it up the stairs on stage anymore. Hah
- good plan!
How
do you think the Internet could be used more effectively to promote
music? What do you think of all the music downloading and file-sharing
and all that side of it, and how do you think it affects the artistes
in the short-term? And in the long-term? Big
subject. First I must say I don't think it's right that you can
download somebody's property for free and basically steal it.
Then again, since we use CD's as media for music most of the stuff
appears to be overpriced. Still when you are dealing with artists
who do not sell a million records, if CD's were cheaper then advances
to the bands would be less, the budgets to record records would
be less, etc. Smaller artists need to have their records sold
for more money as this is their only source of income in many
cases. I want my music out there and accessible for everybody
but I also need to make a living. Imagine if nobody had to pay
for music anymore, music would likely die. I don't think the work
of an artist should be free but I also don't believe that a band
has to have their own Lear jet. So hopefully somebody will come
up with something where fans can download their favorite music
affordably and we all get along together. For the future I believe
record stores will be obsolete and all music will be distributed
over the net which is a big opportunity for unknown bands and
will enrich the quality of music. Mainstream consumers where kind
of manipulated in the past as to what they where listening to
and that has to stop. The Internet will do it. |
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| What
I miss is the artwork on album covers. Oh
yes yes yes YES! Me too - much so! The switch from vinyl
to CD did already some damage there. But I'm sure somebody will
come up with something to make it exciting again. When VCR's came
out, they said nobody would go to the movies anymore. False! The
film industry makes more money than ever. We all just need to
work together and pull on the same string, and making music and
buying music will be fun and lucrative for everybody involved
again. The Internet is a big change in our industry and every
big change in a market leaves some companies behind, but at the
end it will be all good and everybody who is open minded will
succeed. |

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I
often think that the Internet gets a lot of negative publicity
for the bad stuff that happens, but never seems to be commended
for all the wonderful, exciting and great things that come from
it. Would you agree or disagree? I
think the Internet is as important as the invention of the wheel
or the discovery of fire to mankind. It changed definitely my
life. Absolutely agree with ya! The
opportunities to communicate and network with other people are
unlimited. There are many people who make money on the net and
were able to quit their day jobs and live a better life. We can
learn so much and feed off each other. Before the Internet most
markets were controlled by big companies. Now everybody has a
chance. Of course, like with everything, there comes some bad
stuff with it but it's not comparable to the positive things happening
on the net. The Internet made more millionaires than all other
industries combined in history. How about that. I'm happy to be
part of this generation. It's all very exciting and I don't believe
in the 'Good Old Times' theory. Did you ever look at dentist's
tools from the year 1920? Ouch!!! Well,
for me it's more about instant communication than about making
money, but I know what you mean. So... how big is the Internet
in YOUR life? VERY.
Yehhhh.... me too.Yehh
... Are you ever scared that if you logged off for more
than an hour, the Internet would cease to exist? Yehh....
Yehhhhh.... we can't risk it, can we....?
No...... gotta keep on top of it, between us, you and me... Yeh...
will do.. we can't let people down... it's our duty. Yes,
you're right, it is and we must. |
| OK,
now what has been your favorite era for music, and why? 1350
- 2004 because ........ Hahah, good one!
My favorite era is, of course, my generation, because I can identify
with it the most which is only natural. I like it all though,
it's very interesting to listen to music from other eras and learn
about other generations and their problems. Music documents history.
Beethoven for example... go to a record company today and tell
them you will write a piece for them. Tell 'em it will take you
five years and you might never finish it. I wonder what they'd
say. Hmmm, Uli Jon Roth's tried that one
a few times ... Those guys definitely were not under pressure
in the old days. It was all about the music. Then again I would
hate to wait five years for the next Schenker release. And
so say all of us! |
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are your favorite bands and performers from the 70s, 80s, 90s,
and now? There
are way too many to list, but I would like to say something here.
What's up with so many musician buddies of mine who say in interviews
that there is nothing good out there? They complain about electronic
music and that it's all computers that make the music.
They say it's not honest. I get really upset about those statements.
Every musical performance uses a tool unless it's vocals only
- and even that's changed over time. The first band ever (I think
they where called 'Meet The Homo Sapiens') had only a couple of
rocks and some wood sticks.
Now compare that to anything that came afterwards. If we play
an electric guitar we look like we use very advanced tools to
the guy who plays the rocks. I'm sure you saw 'Back To The Future'
where Michael J. Fox plays that red 335 Gibson in front of an
audience that has never heard anything like that.
There are always changes in tools and techniques and you have
to accept and respect it. I don't like rap either but there is
some good stuff out there and if somebody sells millions of records
the music must be pleasant to the fans and that does the job.
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remember when my parents generation rejected John Lennon. Today
he is an icon and in 100 years he will have the same place in history
as Beethoven. They said the Beatles and the Stones don't play real
music and sound like a bunch of animals in heat. They said rock
creates violence. Just compare the Lyrics. How many songs can you
name that promote violence - of course there are some but the majority
are about peace and love. Even the oldest Book of all promotes violence
if you wanna see it that way. "Eye for Eye, Tooth for Tooth",
remember. If you are at peace with yourself, you don't need to be
violent, no matter who or how many people tell you to be. Motivation
is the key, not restriction. If we as parents f!&#$ up, (and
we all do, don't we?), then how do you expect our kids not to? So
be a good example and motivate your kids, then they will be invulnerable
to bad outside influences. Nowadays these kids use lots of computer
chips but they are as much creative and talented as we are. I have
a 19 year old son who is into that stuff and sometimes he comes
up with things that blow my mind. |
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And
it's not all made by machines. Led Zeppelin used all kinds of technical
tricks to achieve certain sounds and effects. Listen to Pink Floyd,
how they where using effects. I would love to hear 'Brain Damage'in
a completely dry mix. Maybe I wouldn't like the song anymore. That's
the way we used electronics in our music. How many Heavy Metal guitar
players do you know who can actually get something decent out of
an acoustic guitar compared to Al di Meola or Paco de Lucia? The
majority of them, if you take their distortion pedal away, they
are done, and I don't mean that in a negative way, it's just not
what they do. They are good in their genre and deliver lots of enjoyment
to their fans but they need their tool.
What's wrong with taking computer software and create beats, write
lyrics, sing, or rap, and make that all into a song. These are the
tools of a new generation. It's all music, whether you like it or
not. Musicians use the tools of their times. The art is to deliver
a message in a song and entertain the listener. If somebody does
that, don't ask how it was done. If you don't like it, don't listen
to it but respect it. Music is always honest. It's all about soul.
There is no backwards in art. Let art grow. LET THE CHILDREN PLAY.
Good point, well presented! |
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songs or pieces of music have a special emotional wibbliwobbliness
for you when you hear them? Bridge
Over Troubled Water, Like A Rolling Stone (the Stones version),
Here I Go Again (Whitesnake), - Imagine, Take It To the Limit
(Etta James version), Funny How Time Slips Away (Al Green version),
How Deep Is Your Love (I know, I know, but I have great memories
with that song), Love Over Gold (Dire Straits, the whole album),
lots of stuff by Pink Floyd, The Doors, Van Morrison and so on
.......... Sorry
darlin, I wasn't paying attention after you brought the Bee Gees
into your answer. I sure do NOT want to find out what great memories
that one conjures up. |
| Hey,
I've been reading your philosophies on your Links
page, and I gotta say I agree with them, especially the one about
'Get as much as you can, without taking away from somebody else'
- that is so ME!!! Also, the quote from Michael about bad things
being part of a learning experience, he also said that to me,
almost word for word, when we talked in England on his recent
tour. How come you picked out these quotes? Are there any other
sayings that have inspired you and the way you live your life?
There
are so many wise men we can learn from and plenty of good books.
Yeah, and now you can find it on the Internet too. It's all very
inspiring. From Socrates to bumper sticker wisdom. I can't get
enough of it. Here's another one I like: 'Great spirits have always
found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot
understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary
prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence'
- Albert Einstein. Who
would you like to work with? What would be your dream line-up
and dream gig? Wow,
there are so many people I wanna play with, but, let's see: Mark
Knopfler & Michael Schenker on guitars - Aynsley Dunbar on
drums - Keith Emerson & Elton John on keys - Freddy Mercury
and Sheryl Crow on vocals - Jagger/Richards/McCartney/Lennon/Mozart/Beethoven/Rachmaninov
as a songwriter team - Guiseppe Verdi & Brian May as producers
- Mooka Rennick as engineer and Batttttty as my personal assistant.
Hmmm.. you could probably afford the others,
but.... |

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| So,
what's next in your life? Any unfulfilled ambitions? I'm
open to anything as long as I can be with music. I hope I can
grow musically and as a person and I hope somebody out there enjoys
what I'm doing. I hope I can live my life in peace without harming
the planet or any other form of life. Any
message to the people out there.... Save
the Planet, Peace, Love, Rock and Roll, teach your children well,
be honest. If everybody would be honest - we all could know the
truth. Be yourself and be nice to Batttttty. Hahahah
- yeh! I And on that excellent note, I will say thank you for
taking part in the interview and good luck with the Endless Jam
album and with all the other things going on in your life. 'Be
nice to Battttty' - what a sensible, intelligent, level-headed
and gorgeous fella you are, and I'm sure our readers will all
agree!! |
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©Batttttty
- March 31st 2004 |

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