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Batttttty getz Starz in her eyez, thankz to....
Richie Ranno
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This photo © Joe Jones 2003
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Richie
Ranno was a member of STARZ back in the 70s - and like a lot
of 70s bands, STARZ were a big influence on 80s rock bands who
turned out to be more 'famous' than their mentors.
STARZ recently decided that the world of rocknroll was ready
for a bit more of what they had to offer - so they got back
together and have just completed three triumphant shows in America.
I caught up with Richie at his home in New Jersey, where he
was mowing the STARZ logo carefully into his lawn. We rested
a while on his STARZ-paved patio, and sipped lemonade from STARZ-monogrammed
glasses. Well, it IS one of the best damn logos on the planet!
Anyway,
here'z how the converzation went....
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First
of all, congratulations on the tour! It sounds like you had a
great time! More about that in a bit, but first ....
Most of our SITN readers will know you from the original Starz
line-up in the 70s, and songs such as Coliseum Rock, Pull The
Plug, Fallen Angel etc., and of course the distinctive logo! You've
always had a very devoted and loyal fanbase, but in the same way
as UFO, STARZ deserved to have been a lot BIGGGGGGGER than they
were. Why do you think that you weren't as big as, say, Kiss?
(You should have been!) Thank
you - well, that's simple - we were signed to a lousy US record
company, Capitol. They really only had lightweight bands like
Bob Seger, Little River Band, Steve Miller, etc. So, their promo
people had no idea on how to present a hard rock group to US radio. |
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When
you first got tuned in to the wild and wicked ways of the worldwidewebbything,
were you surprised by the level of interest there was in STARZ?
Well,
yes I was! The
first time you ever logged on to the Internet, did you do a search
on 'Richie Ranno' and up came loads of pages about STARZ? (Of
course you did!) How did that feel?
Actually, we put an official site up after we found a couple of
small tribute type sites. Then we really started getting a great
reaction. I probably didn't even know how to do a search for a
while. These days I'm a computer pro!
I
know you're very responsive to all the feedback you get from the
fans via email, especially when you get messages from fans who've
re-discovered the band - and you always make a point of replying
personally. Do you think the fans are surprised at how approachable
you are? Yes,
some seem to be very surprised. At least they always seem pleasantly
surprised.
How
do you feel the internet could be put to better use in the promotion
of music? What are your views about the whole download/MP3 thanggggg?
I
have no problem with the MP3 thing. I think it exposes a band
to more potential fans. I know the record companies are up in
arms but I don't think it's any different than people copying
albums to cassettes or CD's to CD's. What's worse and who cares?
You can't get every dime from every music fan. The record companies
have been ripping off their artists with the backing of US legislation
for years, so who are they to complain?!! With the economy slowing
down, record companies are trying to squeeze every dime out of
every fan. They now say they're going to sue fans who have large
libraries of MP3's to share online. They have collectively lost
their minds!! |
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Another
way UFO fansite readers might have read about you recently is
because of your collaboration with our own Danny Peyronel, UFO's
original keyboard player, on his recent HEAVY METAL KIDS album.
Tell us how that came about, and also about your history of working
with Danny. You have similar cultural roots, yeh?
Danny
and I met in New York City through a mutual friend/singer about
6 or 7 years ago. We jammed with each other and instantly hit
it off. Danny and I felt like long lost brothers as soon as we
met. We're both of Italian heritage and have a lot in common,
including sons almost the exact same age! We immediately starting
writing songs together. We did home recordings of everything.
Eventually Danny moved to Italy and recorded a couple of the songs
we wrote together in real recording studios! Yes
- there was also a song on his Make The Monkey Dance album - great
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Another
thing you have in common with Danny is that you both took the
step of re-forming a band after one of the original members had
died. How difficult was it to take that decision, such as trying
to gauge what the fans' reaction would be to Pete Sweval being
replaced. How did it feel to be onstage and it not be Pete there
playing bass? Did you feel that in a way you needed Pete's 'blessing'
to make it feel right? Well,
we all wanted to get back together and really, the only excuse
for any of us to not do it at this point IS death. When you've
been given this great gift of music, especially music that makes
other people feel so good, you have to go out there and do it.
We felt we replaced Peter with a bassist (George D'Ana) who captured
his spirit. We felt like Peter WAS with us. |
There
are some excellent photos and reviews from the recent tour on
the STARZ Central website, and also on the STARZ Fansite, which
is run by Padge, one of our SITN members. Tell us more about the
tour - how it came to be put together, what the reaction was from
the fans, etc. Well,
this time it was only 3 shows. We plan on doing some more, possibly
in September. We were contacted, initially, to do some shows in
England. Though we had tried in vain to get some dates in the
US previously (the young promoters and clubowners don't know who
we are!), there was a promoter in England who wanted to book us.
I checked with the guys and they said it sounded great to them.
So, I thought I'd book 3 warmup shows in the US. Not really enough
to warrant a reunion but when the English dates fell through,
we thought it would be fun to do the 3 shows anyway. Turned out
to be a blast! The crowds were so great we couldn't believe it.
We had more fun doing those 3 shows than we did in the '70's!!
Maybe we just appreciated it more. It was so much fun to play
those songs again with Michael, Brendan & Dube and of course,
George and to see the reaction of our fanz! |
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Are
there any plans to put together a live cd or dvd from the recent
tour? Or plans to record anything new, studio-wise? Yes
- there was a 3 camera shoot of the Wreck Room show. That is being
edited now and should be out in about 6 - 8 weeks. There might
also be a CD. We have to listen to the live recordings closely
and make a decision. None of the live recordings were multi-track
recordings so there is no way to re-mix them if we don't like
the mix we hear.
What
percentage of your audience on the recent tour would you guess
were fans from the old days? What sort of audience were the 'new'
fans? Could you tell by their age, t-shirts etc? Hmmm.....90%
older fans. They all seemed to have STARZ shirts on!
What
was your favourite song to perform live, back in the 70s? In
the '70's, Pull the Plug.
What about on this tour? This
time ? ..... I think Coliseum Rock/It's A Riot. |

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The
legendary Louisville gig was at long last released on a double
cd set (and is available from your website, hahaha). That was
always hailed as 'your finest hour'. How did the shows this time
compare to that - for energy, crowd reaction, everything? That's
a tough one. Back then we were playing in large concert halls.
I remember it as being really great but there was something special
about these people waiting over 20 years to hear us again and
us waiting over 20 years to play together again. It was like a
big happy family and everyone was going berserk!!
Any special stand-out memories from the recent tour?
Playing
those songs again with Michael, Brendan & Dube and looking
over at them on stage was surreal to me. Then, looking out into
the crowd and seeing all those faces with a look of incredible
happiness on them was one of the greatest experiences of my life.
I don't
think I can really find the words to explain what it felt like.
After more than 20 years of not playing as STARZ, it was almost
like going back in time. The band and the crowd were truly one.
I can't wait to do it again!! |
So
what did you do in the years in between the two STARZ incarnations?
Well,
Starz split up in 1979 and Dube and I put together a trio with
bassist Peter Scance, called Hard Core. We got pretty popular
here in the NY area doing original songs. Five of those songs
came out a few years later on my solo EP. After a year of Hard
Core, we got STARZ back together. During that time, personnel
changed and we wound up as a 4-piece, Michael, Peter Scance, Doug
Madick (drums) and myself. At that point we changed our name to
Hellcats. We recorded five new songs and released that as an EP
on some stupid little label called Radio Records. They went out
of business two months later and killed that band. That was really
a shame as the songs on that EP were some of the best we ever
wrote and recorded. After that, I was pretty disgusted with the
music biz and I just joined a cover group for the next year. Then,
I got out of it entirely. Eventually Peter Scance and I put another
version of Hellcats together and put another album out on another
little label. That one went nowhere as well. It wasn't as good
as the previous album - no Michael Lee! A few years later I ran
into Jack Douglas (produced STARZ and Violation) at an Aerosmith
concert - Jack produced a number of the early classic Aerosmith
albums. He told me he really wanted to do another STARZ album.
So, I called Michael and Brendan and they came to NY and we wrote
and recorded five new tunes. Doug Madick played drums as Dube
was busy with his new career as an architect. The songs came out
great but we couldn't get a deal. It was 1990. We put it out on
our own label and called it Requiem. After that I put another
cover group together just to do some live gigs. I lost interest
and stopped playing in bands for the next few years. |
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A
couple of years later I put together another group called, RRG
(Richie Ranno Group). Peter on bass again and a new singer (Neal
Sundet) and a new drummer (Henk Shipdam). We recorded an album's
worth of material and released it on our own label. I was very
happy with that album. Had a great sound to it. Neal did a great
job on vocals. It's very hard these days to get any type of success
at all in the US. Radio play is strictly bought (Payola, I guess
you would call it). So, that group went down the tubes. It was
right after that CD came out that I started writing with Danny
Peyronel. Danny moved to Italy after a time and we haven't been
writing together for geographical reasons, but we had a great
time playing and writing together and I think we came up with
some pretty good music. Since that time I have just been playing
in a cover band just to get out there and play. George D'Ana plays
bass in that band and Dave Silver from the band Luxx, is the drummer.
We have a great time playing together. We do all cover songs and
about four STARZ songs that George sings. |
On
the personal level, I got re-married to a great girl/lady and
we have a 3 year old son, Michael. Bethany is pregnant again and
we're having another baby this December. Congratulations!
Bethany is also the beautiful model (my opinion, anyway!) on the
picture disc of Starz/RRG, a photo of which can be viewed on the
STARZ web site. Having a little one running around the house again
is a great joy! I feel very lucky to have had a second chance
at having a great marriage. I hope to get a second chance at having
a musical career, which is something that has eluded me since
STARZ initially split in 1979. I was frustrated for awhile, but
now I just enjoy and appreciate any opportunity to play music
with musicians/people who I really like to be around.
Do
you have any particularly memorable experiences from your career
so far - such as from your tour with Ted Nugent - one of our SITN
fellas remembers Uncle Ted passing out on stage..... Yes,
I remember that one. Dube and I were particularly big Nugent fans.
We were doing a show with him in Des Moines, Iowa one night. Dube
and I went over on the side of the stage behind the PA stack about
20 feet from Ted. He grabbed the mike and started screaming, "Hey,
how about that band STARZ? Weren't they great? Let's hear it for
them!" The crowd was screaming and then he just let out a
long scream himself and fell to the floor. I thought he was just
being dramatic but I think he must have hyper-ventilated or something.
His road crew carried him off and after about 20 minutes he came
back out and did the show. He was, of course, great as usual.
Hahah, yeh, that's sounds like Unka Ted. Any other memories from
the 70s? Well,
to be honest, the '70's are a distant memory. Yeh
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What
was the TRUE story behind the incident with Michael Lee Smith,
the inflatable parrot, the bottle of baby oil and the pineapple?
Hmmmmm? Hey, I'm giving you a chance to set the record straight!
Don't waste it! Oh,
jeez, good one. We did a lot of crazy things in the '70's. The
thing is, do I remember them? Well-fielded,
young man! But don't worry, I'll drag the story out of you when
you come to the UK!
In a 'dream tour line-up' - with STARZ headlining of course -
what other bands would you love to tour with? And you'd better
have the HEAVY METAL KIDS on that list, hahaha. Absolutely
- would love to tour with HEAVY METAL KIDS! We'd love to tour
with Aerosmith and Ted Nugent again. It would be great to play
with some of the bands who cited as a great influence on them,
like Bon Jovi, Motley Crue and Poison.
In
the past you've mentioned Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix as influences.
Did you ever see either of them play live? Yes,
I saw Led Zeppelin 3 times in 1969! Beyond belief. Way ahead of
their time. Nothing came close. They changed music forever. I
also saw Hendrix at Woodstock in 1969. Quite an 'experience'. |
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One
of our SITN members asks... how do you feel about the US Cable
Movie Company using the name 'STARZ'? Was it copyrighted? Could
you have prevented the name from being used if you'd wanted to?
I
think they suck. The word is spelled STARS. If they going to use
our spelling they should be paying us! It's one thing for a basketball
team to use it but this is in the entertainment area. I had a
lawyer contact them but without any real money to pay him, he
didn't get very far. Could we stop them - in a federal lawsuit
which would cost LOTS of money - yes!
What
is next on the agenda for STARZ? And/Or for Richie Ranno? A UK
and Europe tour, hopefully, yes? Well,
we're hoping to get about 6 or 8 shows booked in the midwest -
Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit, etc. The midwest is the capital of
hard rock in America. We would love to come over to the UK. We
just have to find a promoter who is interested.
Hmmm... let me see what I can do...
Any
message to the people out there? Yeah -
thanks for keeping the torch lit!! By doing so you've lit the
fire under our asses and now we're going to try to get out there
and do it all over again!
Well, lots of good luck with it - and we'll all be there to cheer
you on. Thanks, Richie! |
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©Batttttty
July 11th 2003 |
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